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Knowledge in Motion: Engineering Excellence at Cook Fans
Chris Curry of Cook Fans shares the fascinating journey from his college internship to his current regional manager role, showcasing how this family-owned business has thrived by focusing exclusively on fan technology since 1941.
• The company was founded by Loren Cook after working with William Grainger (of Grainger supply) and learning fan manufacturing
• Started with a single gravity fan that's still in production today
• Maintains a debt-free structure that helped them navigate COVID supply chain issues
• Converted valuable manufacturing space into educational facilities 25 years ago
• Manufactures all Cook fans in the United States with facilities in Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma
• Prioritizes engineer education through hands-on classes and their "Engineering Cookbook"
• Creates custom solutions from laboratory exhaust systems to decorative fans for theme parks
• Features in unexpected places from Bank of America buildings to movies like "Meet the Robinsons"
• Balances innovation with regulatory compliance challenges in the modern HVAC landscape
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Speaker 2:Okay, salve Kelly Patterson, how are you?
Speaker 3:Salve, I'm not sure, what that means.
Speaker 2:Ryan Hudson. That's just hello in Italian. Did you know that I got Duolingo app and I have, for the past month, been going through Duolingo to learn Italian?
Speaker 3:Whoa Are you fluent yet?
Speaker 2:It's been a month. No, no, I have not. I'm not fluent, yet I'm actually right now on relationships with family members, so that I know what different people, what their names, are in Italian. The reason why I'm doing that is because for 22 years, my wife has been asking can we go to Italy? And we are finally doing it in April of 2025.
Speaker 3:Yay, I'm so excited for you.
Speaker 2:Yes, I am. What cities?
Speaker 3:are you going to?
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 3:All of them. You're going to all of them.
Speaker 2:Yes, all of them. I started at the top of the boot and I go down the boot. I know that much.
Speaker 3:All right, I hope it's two weeks or three.
Speaker 2:It's nine days.
Speaker 3:Nine days.
Speaker 2:Is that not enough, Kelly?
Speaker 3:Brian, I think you need to extend your trip just by a few more days.
Speaker 2:You'll not want to come back, Because this is what happens Anytime. I'm gone for over a week. I get inundated with so many emails, my phone fills up, text messages are overflowing and it no longer feels like a vacation anymore.
Speaker 3:I agree, yeah, I get it. Okay, nine days is plenty. I'm excited for you. I can't wait to hear when you get back. Thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:You know, the big thing about Duolingo is is that I have actually not done the paid for version. I have to do the free version and I think it's the cheap part of me. It's in my DNA growing up in the hood that I feel like I can't buy this app. I have to actually sit through all the commercials and everything.
Speaker 3:So I also have Duolingo. Highly recommend the paid version. I'm using it to learn French, so highly recommend the paid version. It's not that much, you can afford it, do it.
Speaker 2:All right, fine, you've pushed me over the edge. Thank you, kelly.
Speaker 3:You're welcome, fine, you've pushed me over the edge, thank you, Kelly, you're welcome.
Speaker 2:So today, kelly, we have Chris Curry with Cook Fans.
Speaker 3:Yay Welcome Chris.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. You know we talked a little bit about this before we actually started recording this episode with you, chris, but I tell you I'm really excited about this episode because, looking on Cook's website, I tell you it feels like the Hoffman family of companies has been perfectly knit together with the Cook family and I look forward to this conversation. So, chris, the question we like to ask folks is is how in the world did you get from high school to where you're at today? And probably it'd be good actually to start off with what in the world do you do for Cook fans?
Speaker 4:Well, actually I can answer both those questions at kind of the same time. So I was actually attending back then. It's called Southwest Missouri State University and it's now called Missouri State University and I knew I wanted to pursue a career in a technical kind of design field mechanical design so I knew I needed to get an internship. And, by the way, just a sidebar, I personally love what Hoffman does with your internship program. So any young person listening to this podcast, please look up Hoffman's internship programs. That is phenomenal. Okay, so I am an old intern.
Speaker 4:I mean, it doesn't look like I'm an intern but I am an intern, you know, still in my heart.
Speaker 4:So I went and this was back in. I'm going to tell you my age, this is the early 1990s. I was signed up for an internship with the university and they said, well, go interview at Lauren Cook Company. And I go, well, what are they doing? They go, oh, we don't know. So I had to go, I had to go. This is back pre-internet. I, you know, I went to the library and I pulled down these books called the Thomas Register, looked up what Lorne Cook did and they, and it said in there in their advertisement, they're manufacturers of, of air moving equipment. So I'm thinking they must make fans. Okay, good guess. So I show up, I start.
Speaker 4:My first day was June 6, 1994, the 50th anniversary of D-Day. And I am, yeah, and I start out in the engineering department and I was doing everything to running prints out to the manufacturing floor, helping test fans in the lab. I was doing whatever they asked of me so I could learn all aspects of the business. So my internship was coming to an end and I was approached by, back then, the director of manufacturing and says, listen, why don't you come to work for me as a manufacturing engineer? So I became a manufacturing engineer, never went on an interview other than my initial internship interview and I went and became a manufacturing engineer. So now I went on my internship I was helping test the fans. Now I am now learning how to make the fans.
Speaker 4:So while I was a a manufacturing engineer, that I got was given this project about make this fan more manufacturable and I was like I just ended up redesigning the whole fan. So that led me into becoming a product development engineer here at lauren cook. So then I developed fans here at cook. I developed about three different fans in. They're all still in development in production today. Then people kept asking me, how do we apply these fans in systems?
Speaker 4:So then I evolved into an application engineer at Lauren Cook and then I was doing. Then I ended up training people here at Cook and our consulting engineers and other reps about how these Lauren Cook products all work together and the pros and cons of ventilation. So they're like, well, you need that's a job of what a product manager does. So I became a product manager and then you know, kind of put a bow on this. Ryan Hoffman asked for the line. They said we really need a pretty good guy to be our regional manager for Hoffman, and so my boss, the vice president of sales and marketing, said okay, chris, here's your choice you can either train the guy to be Hoffman's regional manager or you can be Hoffman's regional manager. So I took what I thought was the path of least resistance and just became the regional manager, so I wouldn't have to train anyone.
Speaker 2:Great. So we got the guy, we did get the guy, you know all the things about fans.
Speaker 4:I try, let's put it that way.
Speaker 2:So before we got started with the interview, kelly noticed astutely something in the background. For those of you who are listening, not watching, Tell us what's in the back.
Speaker 3:I see it. I see a. It looks like a jersey, Chris. What is that? In the background.
Speaker 4:So that is, that is right. There is Lynn Dawson, the jersey, lynn Dawson, and that holds a special place in my heart. I'm going to take something off the wall to kind of show you guys and tell us who.
Speaker 4:Lynn Dawson is too, for those of us who don't follow so, yeah, I'm a Kansas City Chiefs fan and I've been that way for a long time, and this is my most prized possession. This is actually a Polaroid photograph of my dad the day he got to meet his hero, lynn Dawson. Lynn Dawson was the MVP of Super Bowl IV. Okay, wow, so I've been a Super Bowl IV. It's Super Bowl IV Now, before NFL apparel was a thing. My very first Christmas picture I'm in a Kansas City onesie. Oh heck, yeah, yeah, so I was, I was, I've been that. I've been a Kansas City Chief for a long time. So I'm even though we just lost the Super Bowl. I I take in the long views like my dad only got to see one Super Bowl and that was even before it was called the Super Bowl Bowl. Okay, and now I've seen five.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, you know so they're always going to the Super Bowl now so right yeah, chris. Chris, do you feel?
Speaker 2:obligated to also be a Taylor Swift fan too right, uh, you know, it's a can of worms.
Speaker 3:It's a can of worms. It is a can of worms in all honesty. You know I worms.
Speaker 4:It is a can of worms. In all honesty, I do take the long view of things. If it brings more people to the game of football and look at it and enjoy it, for a sport, who can't, you know, it's great. I mean I. It is heartwarming to see you know um super bowl 54. You see these dads watching the game in the basement by themselves and now the whole family's crowded around and little girls are screaming. You know about the, the bad officiating. You know and like, and the dads are just kind of just with a big smile on their face.
Speaker 4:So, yeah, yeah, that is I like, anything that brings a family together, you know. So, taylor swift yeah, you know, I'm good so I love it very cool.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for sharing, uh, kind of how you got to where you're at today. Uh, I guess now to kind of zone in on the company itself, tell us about the founding of Cook, and really I love that. Cook said this is our lane, fans are our lane. And then kind of the heart of that, and how you got from maybe the one fan to what looks to be like 56 different product lines of fan now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so uh, it all starts with our founder, Lauren cook. He was actually born in a small town here in Missouri. His family uh moved to Oklahoma. Um then, while I was a young man, he decided he did not want to work in the oil fields of Oklahoma, so he went to a trade school it's a coin electrical school in Chicago. While he was in Chicago, he began working for a gentleman by the name of William Granger, and that should.
Speaker 3:Oh, like of Granger.
Speaker 4:Of Granger, exactly, wow. And he did that so he could pay for his tuition and his room and board. And you know, try to make a very long story as short as possible. Once he graduated from school he was going to move out to California, but Mr Granger decided to open up his very first branch office. Now we think of Granger now as this global company, the internet. Every town has a Granger store, it seems like. But it had to start somewhere. So the very first Granger branch office was in Cincinnati, ohio. Okay, then Lauren was made the branch manager and then he opened up the next one in Cleveland Ohio. And that's important to get to Cleveland Ohio, because the company was founded in Berea, ohio, which is a suburb of Cleveland.
Speaker 4:Okay, while Mr Cook, lauren the original Lauren Cook was working for Grainger, uh became friends with a gentleman by the name of mr ilg and the ill fan company was in chicago at the time and they were. They hit it off and mr cook actually moonlighted making fan parts for mr ilk, so so at some point he made the decision, like I can take my knowledge that I got from the coin electrical school and, by the way, coin electrical school is still there, it's called coin technical college. Okay, he took his knowledge from the coin electrical school and applied it to the fan parts that he had been making with Mr Ilg and he basically started the company in 1941 in Bree Ohio. He started with one fan, which was a Gravity fan. It had no moving parts. That's how he got started and it evolved into the company we have today. Now that first fan is a PR which we still have in production today. It's a PR Gravity fan. It has been in production continuously from. It's a PR Gravity fan. It has been in production continuously from the Warren Cook Company since the 1940s and that's one of the fans you saw on the website, ryan.
Speaker 4:Now, the idea was that the Cook family had seen a lot of divergence in the industry about people trying to get into markets that they weren't really good at and what they did was dilute the knowledge and the service that the company can provide. So I mean we've had a lot of people say well, you need to get into restaurant hoods. You know we make restaurant fans, but the hood themselves with the electronics, the fire protection, all that, that is a specialized function that needs to. There's other people that can do that. We want to stick to fans. You know it is. We want to be the premier place for knowledge of fans, so we put our focus on that. When you start getting distracted by other things, again you dilute the talent and it's just it's you're not. You know you're not putting out your best effort in all those other areas. So kind of a long drawn out answer, ryan, and it's kind of maybe even a too simplified answer, but that's just the straight truth.
Speaker 3:I love that story I also. You said you started with gravity fans. Yeah, and I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I have no idea what a gravity fan is or how it works. Can you just give me a very simple explanation?
Speaker 4:Absolutely so. A gravity fan is basically when you have too much pressure in a building, there has to go somewhere. Okay, you don't have enough pressure in the building because everything has to equalize, it comes in. So a gravity fan means that there's no moving parts, so it is just a. It is just basically a oversimplified, it's a cover covering a hole. Okay okay you know.
Speaker 4:So you know air will go in and out of a building because of natural convection. You also, standpoint is like you know. I don't know if you can see there's a window right here, but there's air pushing against the building. Well, that can produce a negative on the other side. Well, sometimes that pressure pushing into the building through doors, windows and cracks can over pressurize the building and you need to have a relief somewhere.
Speaker 2:So that's what? That's what a gravity fan is. It's not. There is no power applied to it. I love it, thank you, okay, yeah, and it looks like that you guys have made a very good home, I think, both in the uh, commercial and industrial market as well, and looks like you have the capability of making a product, but you can make that product for all sizes and all kinds of situations yes, uh, so the the?
Speaker 4:the philosophy here is that when somebody comes to us with a project, the philosophy here is the answer is yes. Now what's the question?
Speaker 2:that's. That's a great way to look at it.
Speaker 4:You know. So when someone so when someone says, hey, I don't need a fan to move air, but I need something for a motif, you know, for a background, like what is it for? Oh, it's for the Dr Doom. Ride down at Universal Studios.
Speaker 4:So, we made a fan that doesn't. That's just turns real slowly so it looks cool for the ride. You know, that's all it is. It's not, it's not really moving in there, but it's like, hey, it's a fan, that's what we want, like, okay, no problem, you know. And so we, we do stuff like that and we get into some very complex projects. I mean, laboratory fans are the ones that are probably Complex projects. I mean laboratory fans are the ones that are probably, I'd say, the most complex because they are very safety driven.
Speaker 4:Ok, you have to, you know, frankly, is probably very, you know, concerning to people that it is out there, but you have to do it and you have to exhaust that air. So there are things like plume rise, plume characteristics, on and on, like that. That we get from a very technical aspect of that. We get to that point. So we, we do, we can get into the weeds very, very quickly and do very complex systems. And then some people say, hey, I got a dormitory, that's got a kitchen over here and a kitchen over here. Can you guys make a side-by-side fan? Yeah, no, no, no problem, you know, and stuff like that. So I did a lot of that when I was in the application uh engineering side, so okay with uh post covid.
Speaker 2:One of the things that I found specifically in manufacturers is that it seems like the lead times have gotten very wonky out there. Have y'all been able to kind of get your? I don't know if y'all's lead times got out there, but were you able to get them kind of straight and to where you kept being able to provide to your customer base, and have you seen any problems with that?
Speaker 4:as far as sourcing parts pieces, Well, one of the things that from the Cook family philosophy is they have no debt here. Okay, so everything is paid. All our bills are paid down to zero. So during COVID specifically, we were actually getting phone calls from the suppliers and supply chains that was like, hey, we've got this. You guys need it because we know you will pay. Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:And so we were yeah, so there was.
Speaker 4:We really didn't have any supply chain shortages from the standpoint of you know if it was chain issues and I don't know if you remember or not, but you know the Port of Long Beach had a huge backup right after COVID and stuff like that that affected us. But because the Cook family had a philosophy and they actually kind of say this tongue in cheek because we do things that the Harvard Business School tell you not to do, okay, and so we actually have a higher volume of inventory than probably a lot of these um, corporate people would say, because they just live in a spreadsheet, you know, and the family, you know, they, they, they, they. They will answer the phone from Mr Hoffman saying how are you guys on this motor? Okay, we're here. Where do you think we need to be, mr Hoffman? He goes I think you need to be here. Well, let's look at it and make sure it makes sense for our customers.
Speaker 4:So that is a good thing about a family company. Now, around that same COVID time, there was a lot of people that got out of the workforce and that did impact our lead time and deliveries. But we've spent a lot of time making sure that we get our lead times back down to where they were. The one thing that is probably a little bit of a detriment is the whole Amazon society out there. Amazon thinks like everything is available in 24 hours and the answer is no, it's not.
Speaker 4:When you're talking about a blower that's got a 73-inch wheel in it. You know that's 73 inches in diameter. That's going to take a little bit more time than 24 hours to make you know so.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah. Well, I tell you that's very impressive to hear that, Chris, just because having those parts sourced and ready to go more so than maybe your average manufacturer means that there's a reliability to your product. You didn't have to cut corners to make the same product that you would have pre-COVID or whatnot. I tell you, I was also very impressed with hearing the humble origins of Cook and seeing that now you guys have over a 1 million square foot facility to be able to kind of manufacture all of these different fan solutions.
Speaker 4:Uh, where's that?
Speaker 2:where's that located and kind of talk a little bit about that well, so I I don't want to burst your bubble here.
Speaker 4:It's a. It's a total number of plants under under under roof is over 1 million. So we have have.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll do what I'm good with that.
Speaker 4:Okay, all right, so the bubble's not burst.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay so right here in Springfield Missouri where the corporate headquarters is, we actually have a commercial facility and then we also have an industrial facility. Okay, but kind of one of the things about the cooks is that they look out into the future and they kind of saw that you know, we needed more capacity. So they actually have opened two plants in the past two years in Coffeyville, kansas and McAllister, oklahoma. So now in total we actually have an assembly plant in Coffeyville Kansas. We have another assembly plant in Coffeyville Kansas. So there's two there McAllister, oklahoma, plus all the facility here in Springfield Missouri.
Speaker 4:So I guess one of the things I kind of beaten around the bush there is that they are all in the United States. There is no foreign or international plants, plants we're not dependent on having to worry about, you know, our fans having to come into the united states stores and going for, uh, excuse me, coming into the united states and having to be shipped out somewhere else. Yeah, we still have to get components from overseas. Uh, I would say my personal and and I'm going to be very blunt about this, it is a personal problem is that we see all these codes about EC motors and energy there that makes us so dependent on foreign components in order to meet domestic energy codes. So that's just that. Again, that's my personal. That is not the company's stance, it's just me personally. That's what I have a problem with, so okay.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah, and I tell you, whenever you start having all those regulations that seem to almost be uh, foolish, uh, in a sense, that's when you start to get. You can get in bad places with that. But yeah, I agree with you. So what I do also like when I was researching a little bit about Cook, is that you guys seem to really care and put a lot of emphasis on education, and I noticed particularly a little play on words, an engineering cookbook that you guys have. Can you tell us a little bit about how you're giving back to the engineering community, and I think about those young engineers that they have the four-year education, but then there's this thing called real life that has to come into play whenever they're actually designing systems. Can you kind of get into how Cook comes alongside them to help them with that, specifically with fans?
Speaker 4:Well, so I have one, two, three four generations of cookbooks at my desk.
Speaker 4:Okay, so, so yeah, as a play on words, the cookbook. It is one of those things like when you go out in the real world and especially me personally, I began collecting crib notes about things, and so the cookbook was a total collection of crib notes out there from the HV standpoint. So we are very conscious about the aspect about engineers in learning. Okay, there was a, there was a some type of I think it was a statistic. I saw or heard about a month ago that in our industry we are losing about 2,000 engineers a month. Okay, so that means we have to train an entire new generation of engineers.
Speaker 4:One of the detriments that we see as a manufacturer in education is the whole work at home aspect of it. There's a very collaborative effort. When people are in an office, they can hear things, they can see things on other people's screens and ask questions immediately. Now, technology like we're doing right here is great, but it doesn't replace the human bond of people collaboratively coming to solve a problem. Okay, so we have a number of videos to try to explain that stuff on our website, but we actually have classes where we bring in consulting engineers and do hands-on things. Okay, they're not simulations. We will actually tell people hey, we have a fan law.
Speaker 4:In fact, this is definitely something from a Cook family. That is definitely something you don't see in the corporate world is that they made a commitment about 25 years ago. They took manufacturing space completely out of their factory and dedicated it to showrooms and educational facilities here at the factory, and I don't know anyone that will actually take manufacturing space away from manufacturing and give it to a marketing department to build displays to help educate the future. So it's more incumbent now that because we have so much turnover that we do more and more of that. So now we're looking for new technologies and I'm just going to lay this out there.
Speaker 4:If you know, I'm grateful to be on this podcast, you know, and I'm looking forward to feedback and what you know. Hey, cook, have you thought about doing this? We listen to everything because of that education component. Listen to everything because of that education component. Okay, in fact, um, we I don't know of any other industry or any other the company does this, but student ashery chapters if they're within a day's drive, we ask them to come into the factory okay, that's fantastic you know, um, there are, you know, and because of our proximity, kansas State University shout out to the Wildcats there.
Speaker 4:They've been our longest standing coming in. They've been coming in since the late 90s. They bring in a student group every year to talk about HVAC, okay, and we have other groups. So you, you know, we have a good proximity here. But we've made a dedicated effort to to train people. I I personally was in, I am still involved, we're all involved with it, but that was primary.
Speaker 4:My life for about six years at cook is to make sure that our curriculum was top notch, okay, that we did not waste anyone's time. And now that I've become a regional manager I see the more and more need for that because of the standpoint of an engineer sits here and he makes a design and he gets a result out of a computer and, oh, that's got to be good. The thing about it is that the people that are writing the code for that computer they have no knowledge of fans, okay, they're just going ones and zeros like, and and, to use the old old computer term, garbage in, garbage out. Now. I'm just not saying that engineers put out garbage, but I'm just saying what they garbage in garbage out. Now I'm just not saying that engineers put out garbage, but I'm just saying what they put in. They're spitting something out and it is not necessarily the right piece of equipment. Until you educate them and start saying did you look at the maximum RPM of that fan?
Speaker 4:Did you see where it is on the fan curve? Okay. Did you look at the size of it fan curve Okay. Did you look at the size of it? Do you have enough room in that building for that? Inlet conditions, outlet conditions affect the performance of the fan regardless. The fans are tested in laboratory conditions, but you're going to apply it into a building and is it going to work in that condition? Because of the way you've done it? In my career I've been here 30 years I've seen people say oh, this is the Revit model. Now, revit is a program that mechanical engineers use to lay it out. And I've seen things where I've just said just because you can put something in a Revit model in a Revit project doesn't mean you should use that fan in that project. So that's a lot of that is. There's a lot of old school. You know things that have to be thought about and just not use what's spit out of a computer.
Speaker 2:Sure you know you talked about. Thank you for kind of going through how you help with the engineering community to make sure people are knowledgeable about your product, with that kind of looking towards the future kind of walk us through. What does your R&D look like for Cook? How are you guys staying on the forefront of technology?
Speaker 4:Well, it kind of goes back to what we're talking about. The one thing that is in technology-wise is energy efficiency. Okay, there's a lot of codes out there which are, in an aspect, driving things even to larger fans. Okay, so that makes, if you go with a larger fan, it's typically more efficient. But then there are a lot of different things that go into that.
Speaker 4:From a standpoint, we may have an existing fan, but we have to apply new technologies. From a standpoint of motor technologies I mean it was PM motors, ec motors we are constantly developing new EC motors for our fans. Okay, and those are what I mean EC motors. We're talking about electronically commutated motors. Okay, I will say one of the misconceptions from an engineering, from a consulting engineering standpoint and a rep standpoint, is that you can just take a motor and plug it into a fan. It's going to work. Now there still has to be some testing and developing, so forth. There.
Speaker 4:A lot of engineers now are wanting to have those motors and fans tied into BMS systems so they can be accessed to the cloud. Okay, that is a very, very sharp double-edged sword. The more complexity you put into a system, the more things can go wrong. So there's a lot from the R&D side about looking at that, but mainly right now R&D is actually just tied up in just complying with the Department of Energy mandates about getting the data into their database, and so that's tying up a lot of our research time from a standpoint where we should be developing all this stuff. But we're having to make sure that the data in the database is correct.
Speaker 4:So you know, 15 years ago we could self-certify something and Lord Cook would stand behind that and say that is what it is. There was a lot of other companies that would self-certify, but they wouldn't stand behind their product. So that's kind of where research is right now. It's kind of like we have that bottleneck, like everything that we said was good, okay, we're going to put the data back, or, uh, you know things, places you've seen maybe the, the cook product that you were surprised about, kind of, do you have any uh anything specific out there?
Speaker 4:I do I, I do and uh, I was sitting at home one night and I was watching the movie uh, uh, meet the robinsons, okay, with my kids. And at the end of the movie there is, uh, there is a song that was done by, uh, by rob thomas, who was the front man for match. Is it matchbox 20? I?
Speaker 2:anyway, box 20 yep that's it, it's max box
Speaker 4:20 so he is doing this song called little wonders and he's sitting on this roof uh, little Wonders, and he's sitting on this roof setting. And I noticed what he's sitting on. He was sitting on a Lorne Cook top cap and there was Lorne Cook top caps all in this. You know fake roof setting, but it was like they were trying to make it look like a urban roof, urban roof setting. I'm like those are all Lord Cook top caps. My kids like going dad come on, they were impressed with you, weren't they?
Speaker 4:They were impressed I know there's just like, ah, it's an occupational hazard. But you know we've done, we've done projects, um, like the bank America building in Charlotte that has Lauren Cook fans in it. Okay, there are. We actually have in our showroom a reel of all these special projects, and there's so many of them it's really hard to go through and pick out. You know a really favorite one, I mean, you know well, let me just go back to this back here, the fans at Arrowhead stadium I know are are cook fans.
Speaker 3:You know and stuff like that. That's pretty exciting so so that's so.
Speaker 4:those are all kind of the memorable projects there so that I ran into so okay.
Speaker 2:That's great, I tell you. I appreciate this time that we've been able to have together. I've learned more about the Cook product and the Cook family and the lineage of it, and it's a fantastic story. Chris, thank you so much for taking some time to be with us today and be with our listeners and educate us so. I appreciate it Thank you Very good. Well, kelly, if folks like what we're doing here, what should they do?
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Speaker 2:Very good. Well, thank you guys so much for your time and I hope you guys out there have a wonderful day. Bye.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much, bye.
Speaker 1:Bye, took a rocket past Saturn. Things don't seem to matter much to me anymore. Got lost inside a daydream, get sick of all schemes they play on their machines. Lost so many words as I got older. You would have thought I was a star for a man of my middle of order. I accidentally wrote these words down, thought all the best of me Faded in an endless sea. But you always bring me back. It's your blue eyes, 20 years of staring At that freckle on your left shoulder. Who would have thought All I needed Was to think of you To bring back the words inside. But you always bring me back. It's your blue eyes, 20 years of staring At that freckle on your left shoulder. Who would have thought all I needed Was to think of you to bring back the words inside of me? I drove an hour to see you. Things just seemed to matter more to me anyway.
Speaker 1:Got lost in reality. No answers to cancer. We never got to talk. Lost so many friends as I got older. We never got to talk. And then I see that you always bring me back. It's your blue eyes, 20 years of staring at that freckle on my left shoulder. Who would have thought all I needed was to think of you, to bring back the words inside of me me, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music, music. Bye, 20 years of staring at that freckle on your left shoulder. Who would have thought? All I needed Was to think of you to bring back the songs inside of me. You were always a part of me. You were always a part of me.
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